Comments on: Some Thoughts About Being Mean https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/ Beer Musings of Minnesota's First Certified Cicerone Mon, 19 Jun 2017 22:04:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Doug Dodd https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6974 Mon, 19 Jun 2017 22:04:44 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6974 Years ago, before craft brewers, I took a tour through the Molson brewery in Montreal. Afterwards they let us drink all we wanted of the Molson Ale. Not the golden. I remember the smell of the yeast from the tour and the taste of the malt. It was sublime. I don’t do the hoppy ales now and am always looking for a more malty ale. I also drank an ale called Black Horse Ale and Ballantine Ale. I don’t remember them being hoppy. This was late 60’s. Suggestions for a malty Ale with a hint of the yeast aroma?

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By: Travis https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6966 Thu, 01 Jun 2017 15:30:45 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6966 “If you want to make great beer you are going to have to dump some.”

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By: Michael https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6965 Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:35:01 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6965 In reply to West Coast Beer Geek.

I’d say the same is true for anyone who puts stuff out there for general consumption. Artists. Chefs. And beer writers.

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By: West Coast Beer Geek https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6964 Thu, 01 Jun 2017 02:27:00 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6964 I’ve always felt that any brewery willing to take your money should also be willing to take your honest praise or criticism.

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By: Steve https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6963 Wed, 31 May 2017 23:06:14 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6963 Well said, keep up the good job on your reviews. We are in a culture that sometimes doesn’t​ seem to want to hear the truth – everyone must brew in Lake Woebegone as everyone is above average and makes fantastic beer. Sadly, that extends to other products beyond beer – just get me started on all the crappy software being released to the public by people that don’t have a clue.

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By: Michael https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6962 Wed, 31 May 2017 13:42:12 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6962 In reply to jberlat.

But here’s the thing with that. Unlike wine, which is pretty much grape-press-ferment and very much dependent on what happens in the vineyard, beer is manufactured. It’s the mechanical operations that maltsters and brewers put those ingredients through that make it beer. The variance from crop to crop is fairly small. The industry demands a great deal of consistency from suppliers, and they receive it. Brewers who know their stuff have all the information needed from maltsters and hop growers to tweak processes and recipes to account for variances. If they miss a number here or there, they have the ability to blend batches. And there are a variety of hop products out there like lupulin powder and bittering extracts that allow for great precision in whatever parameter they are designed to meet. And craft brewers – even small ones – do use these products. Despite minor changes in ingredients, brewers are able to produce an extremely consistent product batch after batch. Think about it. If you order a beer once, you will expect it to taste the same the next time. If it doesn’t, there is a problem. Thus the beer nerd refrain of, “this tasted better last year.”

Additionally, the kinds of issues you mention have nothing to do with the kinds of issues I was alluding to. A brewer could use an entirely different malt and still make a beer that is not dripping diacetyl. The alpha acid percentage of hops could be significantly higher than the last crop, but a brewer worth their salt could still make a beer that wasn’t astringent. Process and technical flaws are only a sign of an inexperienced brewer, not a sign of the complexity of beer.

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By: Al https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6961 Wed, 31 May 2017 01:01:45 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6961 Stay Cunty, My Friend

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By: jberlat https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6960 Wed, 31 May 2017 00:35:38 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6960 Not a great comparison of beers and ladders. Ladders aren’t made with ingrediants that can change all the time. It isn’t a living organism. Beer is a complex organism.

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By: Derek https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6959 Tue, 30 May 2017 21:31:22 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6959 Spot on. Keep the honest reviews coming. It’s one thing if you don’t care for a particular style, but if beers are loaded with diacetyl or under attenuated, breweries should be called out for it. Just like you should send back your over done steak or raw chicken at a restaurant and probably wouldn’t return if they constantly fuck your order up. Time to trim the fat.

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By: Meany McMeanface https://www.aperfectpint.net/2017/05/some-thoughts-about-being-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-6958 Tue, 30 May 2017 20:24:23 +0000 http://www.aperfectpint.net/blog.php/?p=3996#comment-6958 When someone recommends a beer to me, I judge that based on my previous experience with their recommendations. A review works the same way. It’s one person’s opinion, based on their background and training. So people should follow the reviewers they tend to agree with, and ignore the one’s they don’t. It’s that simple.

Personally, your reviews always seem reasonable to me. From reading your posts, I know that you and I have slightly different taste preferences, and I take that into account. But I also trust that you know what chlorophenols taste like, and you will call someone out when they serve flawed beers. I appreciate that a lot.

There are already plenty of “critics” out there who try to avoid saying anything bad. Thank you for telling it the way you see it. If that’s being mean, then please be continue being a meany.

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